INTERVIEW – My Darling Clementine: “Art and real life tend to blur – it’s like we’re living in the storyline of a classic country song”

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Husband and wife country duo My Darling Clementine (Michael Weston King and Lou Dalgleish) prefer a strong cup of tea to Jack Daniels and debauchery, but can often be found arguing in the kitchen over chord progressions. I spoke to them about their latest single The Gospel According to George, which heralds a new, soulful direction, and their forthcoming album, which was recorded with Richard Hawley’s band in Sheffield.

Your new single – The Gospel According to George – is a tribute to the late, great country singer George Jones, who died in April of this year. Can you tell me more about the song and his influence on My Darling Clementine?

Michael Weston King: It was not intended to be the first single. In fact, it was not intended there would even be a single right now, but it only seemed right and fitting to mark the sad passing of the magnificent George Jones – a man who, both as a singer and a songwriter, was such a huge influence on me. The music and legacy of George and Tammy Wynette was very much the template for Lou and I when we began My Darling Clementine.

Two years ago, I read George’s amazing autobiography, I Lived To Tell It All. It makes Keith Richards’ biog seem like Enid Blyton. There were so many great lines in the book, so I started jotting a few down. The end result was the song The Gospel According To George.

We were playing in Kirkwall on the island of Orkney when we heard the news about George – we were just about to go on stage. We walked on and opened up with Good Year For The Roses. There was no alternative.

What can we expect your new album, The Reconciliation?, which is due out in October, to sound like? How will it differ from your debut album, 2011’s How Do You Plead?

MWK: We recorded the new album in Sheffield with producer Colin Elliot (Richard Hawley, Duane Eddy). We used Richard Hawley’s band, along with added violins and horns. There are some very interesting guest appearances, too – Kinky Friedman sings on one track and The Brodsky Quartet played strings on another. It’s less ‘old time country’ than our first album, How Do You Plead? It’s also more varied in style – there’s some country soul, country rock, Mexican and folk influences, too. All the songs are duets and lyrically they’re quite a bit darker.

How is it writing, recording and performing together as man and wife? Your songs are full of heartbreak, bitterness and regret. Is it difficult?

MWK: It’s very easy – they’re just songs of everyday life in our household! Only kidding. No – it’s not tough. Lou is such a fine singer that it makes my life easy – she does most of the harmonising with me. Lyrically, yes, there have been moments when we’ve been into the studio to do some vocals when we were less than happy with each other on that day, but that can make for an even more impassioned interpretation and performance, so, in a way, that’s good. Being married – and being together for 12 years – means there is definitely a sixth sense when it comes to singing together and phrasing etc. It happens without too much work – it’s a natural thing, I guess. However, we still find plenty of time to bicker about other things. Especially in the writing process, or over who is making dinner.

Lou Dalgleish: There is always an interesting mix of harmony and downright disharmony in our kitchen, which is where we tend to do most of our collaborating. It makes for quite an interesting domestic situation, as we thrash out who will win the battle of the chord or the melody line. Having said that, we usually know what each other wants and we usually agree. Art and real life do tend to blur sometimes. Although there are times when being married to one’s job can cause tensions  – it’s like we are actually living within the storyline of a classic country song – on the whole it is a privilege to be able to share the creative process with my husband. But don’t tell him I said that!

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Your songs are very much in the tradition of the great male and female country duets by George Jones and Tammy Wynette, Dolly Parton and Porter Wagoner and Johnny Cash and June Carter. Are they intended as a homage?

MWK: In many ways they are, but we did not want to cover their songs. It was all about re-creating that sound and feel, but with new songs written in that style. Lou and I had always envisaged doing something together, it just took us a long time to decide what. I was listening, as I often do, to my old George Jones records one day and it struck me when I heard his duets with Melba Montgomery and Tammy Wynette that this was it!

What’s the appeal of those songs and artists to you? Why are you drawn to them? 

MWK: Well, for a start they are older artists. The great songs of George and Tammy, Johnny and June etc were not sung by people who were kids or even in their twenties. These were people either in – or approaching – middle age, who had lived life and felt its pain and joy. Lou and I are both of that age so it fits. These songs are written and sung from a mature, seen-it-all view, and I love that.

Your songs have got a very authentic, American country sound, but your first album was recorded in London. How did you nail the traditional country vibe on that record?

MWK: By surrounding ourselves with the right players, the right producer and cutting most of the album live. There was a clear brief from me to the band and the producer on what we wanted, and they all immediately understood what we were after. I knew they would, that is why I picked them. They were all old school guys who understand and play country music better than anyone else in the UK.

Any good studio anecdotes?

MWK: No daring tales of drugs, Jack Daniels and debauchery, I’m afraid. We’re all a little too old for that now. However, there was strong tea, for sure. There were the odd moments of tension and domestic disharmony between Lou and I. And occasionally the band had to be nanny to mine and Lou’s daughter Mabel, when she was present at some of the sessions. But it all went pretty smoothly really.

One of my favourite songs of yours is Going Back To Memphis. Can you tell me more about it? It’s a classic-sounding, country-pop tune. 

MWK: I am a huge fan of Tom T Hall – our song is kind of a nod to his track That’s How I Got To Memphis. A couple of years ago I was driving from Nashville to Memphis, and we were going along Music Highway, passing signs for the Lorretta Lynn theme park.

I just started jotting a few ideas down, I think 24 Hours From Tulsa came on the radio too and it prompted me to think of a guy, who has been out on the road for too long, going back to someone he left behind, settling down etc.

One reviewer said Going Back To Memphis sounded like a lost Glen Campbell song. If only!

Some of your lyrics and your vocals remind me of Elvis Costello at times. Is he a big influence on you?

MWK: Lou and I are both huge fans of Elvis Costello – in fact, it was through him that we met, but that’s another story…  Almost Blue [Elvis Costello album] is what turned me on to country in the first place. His immaculate taste in song choices and songwriters opened up a new world of music for me. From there on it was Harlan Howard, Merle Haggard, George Jones and Gram Parsons all the way.  It took Lou a little longer, as she was still entrenched in more jazz and pop in the ‘80s and ‘90s, but living with me, she had no choice but to listen to country.

LD: Although my family background was steeped in a love of jazz, The Beatles and pop music, I fell in love with Patsy Cline’s voice at an early age. It was like a guilty secret – listening to music that was considered very uncool and rather cheesy, but there was something so pure and beautiful about the way she sang. I had no idea then that I would go on to write and sing country music myself.

I was busy writing and performing within the “serious female singer songwriter” genre. Then, when I heard Costello’s Almost Blue, I realised that there was a whole other world of country music out there that didn’t have to be twee and embarrassing. Having said that, I have come to love the twee and embarrassing stuff quite a lot!

When I met Michael, he was way ahead of me in terms of country music awareness, and, to be honest, I resisted the call for some time. But before I knew it I was hooked, and, as it turns out, writing and performing as My Darling Clementine is proving to be my most artistically inspiring genre. And a lot of fun.

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I think your songs have a timeless, classic quality. What’s your songwriting process like?

MWK: I don’t have one – I’m constantly jotting and scribbling words down, mumbling into my phone, or, like most writers, just banging away on a guitar ’til I get a melody or chord progression I like.  In November last year, I was away on a solo tour of Europe for a month, so I did a lot of writing in the car while driving along the autobahns, singing into my iPhone. Then I fine-tuned the songs in hotel rooms. I have been soaking up country music for years – even more so since My Darling Clementine started. I’m hoping some of that classic stuff will rub off and come through in my new songs.

So, finally, what makes a good country song? 

MWK: The same thing that makes any good song – a strong melody and great lyrics. And where country music is concerned, the sadder the better.

My Darling Clementine’s new single The Gospel According to George is out now. Their second album, The Reconciliation?, will be released in October.

INTERVIEW- Meg Olsen: “Meeting Morrissey? I don’t want my adoration to be tainted by a disappointing encounter”

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Los Angeles-based singer/songwriter Meg Olsen has just released her debut EP – Deal From The Bottom.

The five-track record is simply gorgeous – cinematic, country-pop, where twangy guitars meet haunting organ sounds. It’s like Mazzy Star, hanging out in a late-night bar for the lost and the lonely.

There’s even a splendid cover version of Morrissey’s Suedehead thrown in for good measure, too.

I spoke to Meg just before the official launch of the EP and she told me how she’s glad her songs have finally seen the light of day…

Congratulations on  Deal From The Bottom. Can you tell me how it came about?  

Thank you. This EP is my first solo release and I am so thrilled to get it out there into the universe. I have been writing songs for ages, but had kept them to myself for the most part. Looking back, I think I was just painfully nervous about how people would react. What really got me over some of that anxiety and out of the protective shell was collaborating with other artists.  A couple of years ago I started a 1920s inspired cabaret act called The Dime Store Dollies with a wonderful group of artist friends. It was an environment that felt safe enough to share my ideas in and was such a great learning curve as an artist.  Then last year I was asked to sing backup for Canadian artist Lucette, while she supported The Secret Sisters on their UK Tour. We played iconic places like the Union Chapel and that was such a liberating experience for me.  Those things really added fuel to the fire and made me realise that it was time to just go for it with my own songs and forget about how people may or may not respond.

 

Where did you record the new record, & who played on it & produced it?

We recorded it at Bad Transmission Studios in Los Angeles, with producer Daniel Dempsey (Until June, Jamestown Revival). The recording process for this EP really felt like a family affair – Ian Webber, my boyfriend, played most of the guitars; Dominic Massaro and Sam Gallagher who played bass and drums, respectively, are both close friends and great musicians who I’d worked with before. I played all of the keys (piano, organ, Wurlitzer) and we had a few other fantastic guest musicians who came in to track various bits and pieces.

 

The EP has a moody, traditional country sound to it, but with a gorgeous, smoky, cinematic feel in places (Corners of Bars, Smoke and Mirrors, the title track), too. It often reminds me of Mazzy Star. How do you feel about that comparison?

Well, I think there are far worse artists to be compared to. I’ve always liked Mazzy Star and a lot of that Paisley Underground-era music, so I’m really just flattered by the comparison. That said, I do think the songs have something different going for them, perhaps a bit more twang and more pop to them. We definitely wanted to achieve a moody vibe though, so I’m glad that is translating.

 

Can you talk me through the four original songs? Tell me a little about them… What were your inspirations/ starting points?

I wrote the four original tracks on my own, on either piano or my guitar. When it came time to choose songs for this EP, I asked Ian (guitarist and lead singer of The Idyllists) to help me demo a handful of songs that I thought I might want to include.  Deal from the Bottom and Corners of Bars were going to be on the EP from the very beginning and once we had the demos, I narrowed it down to two others, which just seemed to fit. As far as inspirations, I consider myself a very emotion-driven songwriter; writing has always been a way for me to process things that are happening to me, going on around me, or even just stories that I’ve heard or read  about that bring up some sort of visceral reaction. That said, sometimes a chord progression, a lyric or melody will just come from nowhere and that will serve as a starting point, so my writing process is a bit of a mixed bag.

Why the decision to cover Morrissey’s Suedehead?  It’s a great version. Being a huge Morrissey fan, I’m usually apprehensive about artists covering his work, but you’ve nailed it and made it your own. I like the ’50s country-pop twang thing goin’ on…

I’m so glad you like it. That means a lot coming from a true Morrissey fan. I was a little nervous about it, being a fan myself, but I love the song and it was always high on the list of cover ideas. Once the band got into the studio and we started to work it up, it just felt like the right choice. I was inspired, in part, by The Smiths’ covers that Sandie Shaw did in the mid-80s. Her voice really brings something else to those songs and I sort of had that in mind when we set off on this somewhat daring mission.

 

Are you a big Morrissey fan? Would you like to meet him? 

 

I am a total fan. I’ve seen him live several times, in fact, I was in the front row at the Earls Court show in 2004 –  the one they recorded for the live album. What an amazing show. As for whether or not I want to meet him…man, that is such a dilemma for me. Not just with him, but with any of my musical heroes, really, because I don’t want my adoration to be tainted by a disappointing encounter. I’ve heard some crushing stories from well-known artists about run-ins with Morrissey and it would seem that he’s not always the most gracious person. But perhaps if I expect the worst going in, I could be proven wrong.

Have you any plans to record a full album? 

There are plans to do some more recording in the near future and to release a full length hopefully towards the end of 2013. Nothing is official yet, but I definitely want to get back into the studio soon.

Any live shows coming up? Will you be visiting the UK?

 

I have an official EP release show coming up in Los Angeles on February 19th and there are a few other West Coast dates in the works. I do usually get over to the UK about once a year, so there is a definite possibility of a UK gig in 2013. Fingers crossed.

What music – past and present – are you currently into? 

 

This is a bit clichéd, but I listen to a ton of music, so it’s very hard to narrow it down. I do love the Father John Misty album and have been listening to it a lot over the last six months, so I was excited to see it in your list of the best albums of 2012.  I’ve also been listening to the Cocteau Twins, Ryan Adams and a whole lot of 1960s French pop.

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Were you a musically talented child?

I don’t know that I would call myself a musically talented child… I mean, I loved to sing from a very young age and I used to put on “concerts” for any adult who would humour me, but I was by no means a musical prodigy. My parents did put me in classical Spanish guitar lessons when I was seven, which was not the right fit for me… at all. My little fingers were like noodles and there was this poor 50 year-old Spanish guy just trying to teach me Jingle Bells! It was a lost cause. I basically wrote off the guitar for years after that, until my late teens when someone showed me a few standard chords and really opened things up for me.

How do you see the rest of 2013 shaping up for you? 

 

Honestly, people are being so receptive to this EP already and that has been a wonderful start to 2013. I would love to get my music out there to as many people as I can. I can’t wait to play more live shows and tour around a bit. Then obviously to work on new material and to make the full length record.

Will you be spending any of it hanging out in the corners of bars?

All signs point to “very likely”.

I’ll see you there.

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