‘The nature of the new record is that it’s gentle and quite quiet – that’s the reason we called it Murmurs’

Butler, Blake & Grant: Left to right: Bernard Butler, Norman Blake and James Grant

 

Only a year on from the release of their self-titled debut album, supergroup Butler, Blake & Grant are releasing the follow up – Murmurs is out this month on 335 Recordings.

Its predecessor was one of our favourite albums of 2025 and the new one will certainly be high up on our Best of the Year list come the end of 2026.

Murmurs sees the trio – Bernard Butler (Suede, McAlmont & Butler), Norman Blake (Teenage Fanclub) and James Grant (Love and Money) – reimagining songs from their respective back catalogues.

The first single, ‘Lonely Night’, written by Blake, initially appeared as a bonus track called ‘Dark and Lonely’ on Teenage Fanclub’s 2010 album, Shadows – on Murmurs, the trio reinvent it as an alluring folk-rock-psych tune.

There’s a stripped-back, soulful, slow and atmospheric take on Butler’s ‘Not Alone’ – the original, a lush and epic pop song, appeared on his 1998 debut solo album, People Move On – that album’s title track is also reworked for Murmurs and opens the record in a hauntingly beautiful fashion, with some impressive and delicate guitar work by Butler.

He also adds some exquisite electric guitar to a version of Teenage Fanclub’s ‘Planets’ – a gorgeous escapist ballad that’s about getting away from the city and heading to the Scottish Highlands.

Its theme perfectly suits the autumnal mood of the album, as does Grant’s ‘Winter’, with poetic lines like: ‘In the beauty of the storm, I wither / You could crack this stony sky with a single burning kiss.’

There’s a stirring and anthemic ‘Last Ship On The River’ – sung by Grant and originally recorded by Love and Money on the Scottish band’s 1994 album, Littledeath – and a moving version of his song, ‘Does It All Add Up To Nothing’, with soaring strings.

Butler, Blake & Grant formed when Scottish musician, Douglas MacIntyre, who promotes FRETS Concerts, invited them to perform a low-key concert in South Lanarkshire, Scotland, guessing that they would work well together.

The trio then performed all over the UK and recorded their critically-acclaimed 2025 album of original material at Blake’s home on the banks of the River Clyde, Scotland.

For Murmurs, the group reassembled at Blake’s to capture the original premise for the very early shows they played: three guitars, three voices, and selections from three impressive back catalogues.

On the 10-track album, we get three songs apiece from each member of the band, plus a cover version of ‘Me & Magdalena,’ which was written by Blake’s friend, Ben Gibbard of Death Cab for Cutie and The Postal Service, for The Monkees’ 2016 reunion album, Good Times!

‘We recorded the album really quickly at Norman’s – he hasn’t got a studio. We plonk a computer on his dining room table and put some mics up – without headphones’

Murmurs was mostly recorded at Blake’s home, although some parts, like the bass and drums, were overdubbed at Butler’s studio in London.

“We just recorded really quickly at Norman’s – we banged it out,” explains Butler, speaking to Say It With Garage Flowers in early January of this year, shortly after he has played two solo shows in North London music venue, The Green Note.

“He hasn’t got a studio – we plonk a computer on his dining room table and put some mics up – without headphones. We just record the three of us playing the songs together, as we would play them live – that’s the main thing. I take the tracks to mine and add some touches, like piano, and then I spend about a month making a record out of it.”

Murmurs manages to evoke the same intimate and rootsy atmosphere as the group’s debut album – it’s a cosy, inviting and warm-sounding record, conjuring up images of log fires, drinking whisky, gazing out at stormy seas, walking under overcast skies in wintertime, and wearing big jumpers.

“The big jumpers are because Norman’s house is fucking freezing – he hasn’t got any heating!” jokes Butler.  “The album’s got that feel because the way we play live is relaxed and we’re seated – and the shows are supposed to be fun.”

Talking about the first Butler, Blake & Grant album, he tells us: “I think it sounds really good – it’s a nice, warm-sounding record, and it gave us an opportunity to write – it was almost like co-writing, but it wasn’t co-writing. When you’re in a co-write, you’re doing everything together, but we were writing the songs for ourselves – for a record that would work for the three of us. It was a good outlet for me to get on and just write some songs, which I hadn’t done since Good Grief [2024 solo album]. I really enjoyed that, I like the songs that I did and it pushed me onto the next thing.”

Bernard Butler – photograph by Bella Keery

Q&A

It’s only been a year since the first Butler, Blake & Grant album, and now we have another one – you’re on a roll…

Bernard Butler: How it happened is we got asked to do a couple of extra tracks for the first album – Republic of Music wanted to do a giveaway, and so we did them. We recorded them at Norman’s, and then we said to ourselves, ‘Why are we giving these away for free? We give everything away for free these days…’, so we decided to hang on to them.

We were doing one of the tours when the album came out, and I was staying at Norman’s, so we thought: ‘Why don’t we just do a few more songs?’ And it was just like that. We had the idea of doing another album – we had three songs each and then we added ‘Me and Magdalena.’

The idea was that it was the songs that we were doing in the set, before we wrote any songs together, which we interpreted the way we wanted to. We just thought it was nice to record them the way that we’ve been playing them live, because that was quite different from the way they were done with the respective other artists and me.

The versions of your songs on the album are quite similar in style to the way you play them live in your current solo shows…

Well, that’s the nature of the set-up and it’s the way I’ve been playing for the past couple of years. If I had strings and a drummer and stuff like that, it would be a different story. So, yeah, they’re more or less in line… but with James’s and Norman’s harmonies, which are great.

There are some strings on the version of James’s ‘Does It All Add Up To Nothing…’

James did a version of that song on his own a few years ago with the Prague Orchestra, and he never used it – nothing came of it. So, he sent me the strings, and I extracted them and placed them in the background of our version, so we could use them.

‘Me and Magdalena’, which was recorded by The Monkees, was written by Ben Gibbard of Death Cab For Cutie…

Yes – he’s a friend of Norman’s. I don’t know him and I’d not heard the song. I didn’t know that Monkees record.

When I met Norman and James a few years ago, to do our first show, they said: ‘Oh, we’ve been knocking this song around – do you want to play it?’ I hadn’t seen Norman for years, and, because I hadn’t met James before, I didn’t want to say no.

So, we did a little rehearsal in Glasgow the night before the gig and then I went back to my hotel room, and I learnt the song overnight. We love it and we’ve played it ever since. It’s become our song.

I listened to it [the original] and worked out our version of it. I just made sure I had the chords and the structure, but I never listened to it again. It’s similar to the way I work when I produce somebody who’s made loads of records. When I met Mark Eitzel – I made a couple of records with him – he’d made 15 albums or something – and I knew a few things he’d done, but I didn’t know everything.

I thought the worst thing to do would be to pretend that I’d listened to all 15 albums – I wasn’t going to spend a week listening to all of them, because that’s not how you experience music. You have to absorb it in your own way, and like and dislike things.

So, I just said to him straight away: ‘I didn’t listen to any records. I’m just going to listen to what we do…’ That way I come with a blank canvas, and we can make our record, rather than me trying to respond to all his other music, because that doesn’t feel fair.

It’s the same with some of the other songs on the new record. I knew ‘Planets’ because I’m a huge Teenage Fanclub fan, but I didn’t know James’s songs, and I didn’t want to go hunting down the original versions and try to learn them, because it felt disrespectful. I thought it would be more respectful to listen to what he was doing in front of me and to make something out of it as the three of us. I don’t know whether they’ve done the same with me – they might have done. I think they probably have. We just play a song, regardless of the original version.

There’s a version of your song, ‘Souvenir’, on Murmurs – that’s a deep cut. It was a B-side of ‘You Must Go On’, which was a single from your 1999 album, Friends and Lovers, and it’s been part of your live set for a while…

Yeah – I’ve always really liked that song. It’s simple, and I really enjoy singing it. I’ve always played it with Norman and James.

You’ve got to remember that when I started singing with them, I’d only just started singing again on my own after a long time, and so I was really looking for things that were quite simple – that I could get across quite easily without being too complex. So, I was doing that song a lot to give me a bit of confidence, and I felt good about doing it.

I’ve always played it with Norman and James, and since then, I’ve done hundreds of shows on my own, and I now feel totally different about singing and my vocals.

 

I really like the version of ‘Not Alone’ on the new album…

I like it too. ‘Not Alone’ is a funny one, because when I originally did People Move On, it was seen as it was going to be the big hit single, and it wasn’t… I probably way overdid it for a start, but I always thought it was a good song, and I kind of left it aside for a little bit.

Also, when I did solo shows back in ’99 or whenever it was, they were with a band, and we were trying to replicate the record with a rock band… So, when I started doing the songs again on my own a few years ago, the first thing I did was to find words that I liked and to completely clear away all of the music – to forget everything – guitar riffs, string parts…

Not Alone’ is a funny one, because when I originally did People Move On, it was seen as it was going to be the big hit single, and it wasn’t…’

If there was a chord change I didn’t like, I would change it and the same with lyrics – if I liked a song, but there were a couple of dodgy words, I would change them. It was brutal, but with ‘Not Alone’, when I cleared away all the nonsense of the production, I really liked the lyric – it’s very autobiographical and representative of the passing of time between two periods. It has a real weight. I normally finish my solo set with it, and I just thought we should do it for our record.

 

Butler, Blake & Grant do a great live version of the McAlmont & Butler song, ‘Yes’, but it’s not on Murmurs

No – I felt a bit precious about that one. I really like that record, and I like doing it because I feel like it honours the song. For people who come to see me, I’m happy to boast about it: ‘Oh, do you know this is my song?’ I’m proud of that record. I sometimes do ‘The Wild Ones’ by Suede too for the same reason. It’s not so much about performing it myself, it’s more about, ‘Yeah – this is mine as well. Don’t forget that.’

I like performing ‘Yes’ with Norman and James as well – I like the harmonies they do. Our version is completely different – it’s quite bluesy and stompy. I didn’t want to record it because I feels like it works live – it’s a moment when you’re in a room with lots of people and there’s an energy.

The nature of the new record is that it’s gentle and quite quiet – that’s the reason we called it Murmurs. It’s like little whispers and murmurs… ‘Yes’ just doesn’t fit into it. We do ‘Cinnamon Girl’ at the end of our shows too – that’s just a bit of fun.

What are your favourite songs by Norman and James that you play in the group?

On this record, my favourite Norman cut is ‘Lonely Night’ – I really love that. Part of the reason is because it’s the only occasion where I’ve been able to take a Norman Blake song and do exactly what I felt as a producer. I still haven’t heard the original.

Norman hadn’t recorded the vocal… I basically just recorded a backing track, and I put drums and guitars and stuff like that on it, and I sent it to Norman and said: ‘I have no idea whether this is going to work, because I don’t know what you’re singing, but I’ve just recorded some stuff on it to make it into this sort of slightly psychedelic piece…’

‘We truly feel Murmurs is a companion piece to the first album’

I just had fun with it really, and I enjoyed working without the vocals, and he just said, ‘Oh yeah, that’s great.’ And when he sent me back the vocal, it fitted perfectly. It was just pure luck.

James’s ‘Winter’ is such a drop-dead brilliant song, and, again, I don’t know the original. When we’re playing together and I see ‘Winter’ is coming up next, I think, ‘Wow – that’s a great song.’ I look forward to it.

So, you’re playing some Butler, Blake & Grant shows in the UK in April and May…

Yeah – there’s a short run and that’s going to be it for the year pretty much, as I’m doing my own record and Norman and James are doing other stuff.

We truly feel Murmurs is a companion piece to the first album – you can put the two together and say: ‘This is what we did and that’s how the shows went…’ That’s what it feels like to me. There will probably be a bit of a gap after this.

Would you like to make another album together?

Oh, yeah. I’m sure we will, but I get an itchy bum, and I want to do my own record.

So, when will your next solo album come out?

Most likely early next year. If I could get a song out by the end of this year, that would be great. I’m doing the album at the moment, and I’m about a third of the way through. The biggest part of a record for me is not just the songs – it’s working out what I want to do. I’m not a group – groups set up in a rehearsal room and say, ‘We are a group – this is how we sound. Now let’s write some songs around our group…’

I never have to think that way – I could pick any genre or anything that turns me on at that point, or anything that feels right, but the hardest thing is to find that and to whittle it down.

It gets intense, as I work on my own 99% of the time. When I make music, there is no one to play it to and when I record something there is no one to say, ‘Well done – that’s really good.’ I don’t have an engineer or a group. The whole process can be quite exhausting but now I 100% know what I’m going to do and that’s good.

Murmurs is released on March 27 (335 Recordings).

BUTLER, BLAKE & GRANT LIVE 2026

April 22 – Kendal, Brewery

April 23 – Halifax, Minster

April 24 – London, Cadogan Hall

April 25 – Bradford-On-Avon, Wiltshire Music Hall

April 26 – Poole, St Peter’s Church

April 28 – Sheffield, Crookes Social Club

‘My album is very cinematic with strong melodies – nobody wants to listen to a drummer going nuts!’

Steve White

 

Steve White is considered one of the best drummers of his generation. Best known for his long association with Paul Weller, he first played with The Style Council at the age of 17, on the 1983 hit single ‘Long Hot Summer’, before becoming a permanent member.

He contributed to Weller’s biggest solo albums such as Wild Wood, Stanley Road, Heavy Soul and As Is Now, but has also recorded both jazz and soul under names such as Trio Valore, The Groove Train and The Jazz Renegades – his late ‘80s hard bop outfit that recorded an LP for Polydor and another for Acid Jazz precursor label, Re-Elect The President, as well as an EP for Acid Jazz.

Along the way he has also played with artists including Working Week, Galliano, The Young Disciples, Carleen Anderson, the James Taylor Quartet, Squeeze, The Who, Ian Dury, Oasis and Jon Lord (Deep Purple), and he was a member of supergroup The Family Silver, alongside guitarist and vocalist, Matt Deighton (Mother Earth), and bassist, Damon Minchella (Ocean Colour Scene).

This month sees the release of Jazz Sessions Volume 1: Soul Drums – White’s first album as a bandleader.

Credited to the Steve White Trio and recorded with Chris Hague (guitar) and Joel White (keyboards) – AKA duo, Hague & White – the instrumental record pays tribute to White’s jazz roots, as well as filmic influences and soul grooves. Inspirations include the early British, Hammond organ-led R&B of Graham Bond and Brian Auger. Steve Beighton guests on sax, horns and flute.

First single, the funky and summery ‘Changes’, with its horns and jazzy piano break, has a touch of Lalo Schifrin; ‘Cough Up’ could be a long-lost, hip Mod R&B club floor-filler; ‘When The Tourists Leave’ has a late-night, smoky European jazz club vibe; ‘Eye To Eye’ sounds like the theme to a ‘60s spy caper set in the French Riviera, and the frantic ‘Running’ could quite easily be played over a car chase scene in a groovy heist movie.

There’s also a mellow reworking of The Style Council’s ‘My Ever Changing Moods’ – a fitting tribute to White’s fellow Councillors: Weller, Mick Talbot and Dee C. Lee.

In an exclusive interview with Say It With Garage Flowers, White shares some insights into the making of Soul Drums, reflects on the early days of The Style Council and chooses some of his favourite music moments that he’s played on.

It’s proving to be a great yearI’m putting out or playing on new music and I absolutely love it. I couldn’t ask for anything more,” he tells us.

Q&A

Soul Drums is your first solo record…

Steve White: It is – it came about after chatting to Eddie [Piller – founder/MD of Acid Jazz]. He surprised me… We were back in touch because of Dee C. Lee’s record on Acid Jazz and he said: ‘You should do a record,’ and I was ‘Oh, right…’

And then he explained that he was curating a series, which I thought sounded good – like the very old days of Acid Jazz, back at the start. It was all done fairly quickly – so I got together with Chris Hague and Joel White, formerly known as Hague & White, and we came up with the album.

As part of The Jazz Renegades, you released an EP on Acid Jazz, in 1988 – it was one of the first Acid Jazz records. How does it feel being back on the label after all this time?

It’s great, and even before that, as Eddie reminded me, I did an album with The Jazz Renegades on Re-Elect The President, which was before it became Acid Jazz. When the dust settles, I’m going to see if we can get those records rereleased, so they’re back out there.

Musicians today can record a track, get it mastered and delivered to a streaming platform and it’s up there for the world to consume tomorrow – that wasn’t possible in 1988, as there was always a process. The problem with the process now – being able to deliver something so quickly – is no one hears anything because there’s too much choice.

There’s clearly a lot of love and respect for the Acid Jazz brand and they have people there who work with you, as opposed to you – the musician – doing everything yourself. I embrace technology – I love it – but you shouldn’t ever forget that there’s no substitute for having something that works properly, with a proper structure and proper people who know what they’re doing.

At the end of the day, you want to be able to concentrate on the music, don’t you?

Absolutely.

Where did you record Soul Drums?

The record was made at Fox Den Studios, right in the heart of Kelham Island, which is a cool, up-and-coming area of Sheffield. Every time I go back, there’s another event space, restaurant or coffee bar… Fox Den is a great little studio, and Matt [Richens], the engineer, is fantastic.

The main batch of songs was done in one or two sessions – a couple of the songs had existed before, but in different guises, so we rebuilt them and added Steve Beighton, who is a fantastic saxophone player. So, we reengineered and repurposed a few things we already had, and I rerecorded the drums – probably half the record was recorded over two days, in a very jazz-like way. We wanted it to be spontaneous.

A tune like ‘Camera Obscura’ was a live take – it was old school, with no edits. We get the drums down and if we want to try something a little bit different… There was no click track – we just went for it.

‘Half the record was recorded over two days, in a very jazz-like way. We wanted it to be spontaneous’

You mentioned ‘Camera Obscura’, which opens the album. Like a lot of the record, it has a cinematic feel. It sounds like it’s music from a ‘60s TV series set in the South of France – it’s lush and summery…

Yeah. I’ve never described myself as an overt jazz musician – I’m a big fan of Art Blakey, Philly Joe [Jones], Miles [Davis], Elvin [Jones] – all those people – but I’ve never associated myself with that kind of drumming.

I was talking to Joel about that, because he was saying, ‘Are we going to be doing jazz?’ I was like, ‘No – we’re not. We’re going to be doing instrumental music – and some vocal stuff – but think of it as British blues-jazz musicians taking an influence from [US] jazz. Think of it as more like Brian Auger or Graham Bond – we’re not trying to be Blue Note.’ Joel was like, ‘I’m so glad you said that…’

How did the tracks come about? Did you jam them in the studio, or did you write the music in advance?

Chris is a major part of the writing – he was responsible for a lot of it, as well as the production – but some of the stuff was jammed in the studio, around grooves, and then we took it away and did the top lines.

It would be so lovely to take five days, go in the studio, start some grooves off, see where it goes and jam it out a bit, but that’s just not viable – to be able to do that is a luxury. You’ve got to maximise your time in the studio and make it count. Hopefully, if we do another record, we’ll have more time to push things out there a bit more.

The first single to be released from the album was ‘Changes’, which has that classic, old school Acid Jazz feel, with a funky groove and a jazzy piano solo…

Yeah – the lovely little piano solo reminds me of Lalo Schifrin or [Eumir] Deodato. That kind of funky jazz thing. Jazz FM playlisted it and it’s been getting daily plays, which is brilliant. I’m really grateful for their support.

The second single, ‘My Ever Changing Moods’, is your take on The Style Council song…

Yeah – Eddie said it would be nice to do something by The Style Council. When he suggested it, I was racking my brain and thinking, ‘What can we do?’ Chris and I are huge fans of Khruangbin – that laidback, Texas jam feel – and we started playing around with ‘My Ever Changing Moods’, playing it a little bit slower.

With Chris’s help, what I wanted to do was to come up with something that was a little more reflective and wistful, and a little more respectful of the melody.

There’s the famous single version, which is more upbeat and Latin, and there’s the beautiful piano and vocal version, and I just wanted to put my own slant on it. I’m a bit older and a bit wiser, and I’m a bit less frantic. It’s a kind of thank you to Mick, Paul and Dee to say, ‘Yeah – that was good, wasn’t it?’ Everyone knows what a genius songwriter Paul is, but it’s nice to be able to pay a little tribute to him.

It’s timely too, as there’s a special 6CD and 3LP edition of The Style Council’s Café Bleu album out this year, and ‘My Ever Changing Moods’ was the first single from that record…

Yeah – it was. The synchronicity is nice, but, when we were talking about doing it, we didn’t know it would coincide with the reissue. It’s nice to see it and it was interesting listening to the performance of ‘Paris Match’ that I did with Mick and Paul on the Kid Jensen show – that was basically three days after I met them, in 1983, and I barged my way in to do the radio session. Paul was finding his way around the piano – he had just finished writing the song and said, ‘Follow me…’ Listening back to it as an official release, 43 years later, is mind-blowing.

You were 17 when you joined The Style Council…

I was. We played the Paris Theatre [in London] on Paul’s 25th birthday, which was just before my 18th. A couple of weeks later, we went to Paris to record the À Paris EP, then went off to Europe. I think we did Goldiggers in Chippenham, then the Dominion in London, which is also on the reissue. I can remember that show vividly – at that point, the Dominion was a happening venue, and I’d seen Weather Report there the week before. Then, a week later, I was on stage there and I was only a few months into my 18th birthday. It was incredible.

Let’s get back to talking about Soul Drums. The track ‘Something’ is fun and uplifting – it’s joyous, with a great organ groove…

It was originally a song – there’s a vocal version of it. Joel said it would make a cool Mod R&B instrumental. It’s got that upbeat, ‘60s Brian Auger feel. I really love playing that one – it’s got a strong melody and I love it when you get [instrumental] interpretations of strong songs, like ‘My Favourite Things’ by John Coltrane.

‘When The Tourists Leave’ is a nice track, with a late-night, smoky jazz club feel. It’s very atmospheric and European. The Style Council had a cosmopolitan sound and some of that carries across into your solo music…

I’m pleased about that, because, as I said, I didn’t really want to make a jazz album. Acid Jazz was never about jazz – it was a hybrid… rappers, songs, folk music… Lots of cool stuff.

Café Bleu had nods to jazz and the influence it was having on us, and I think it’s a similar thing with this record [Soul Drums]. It’s got respectful nods to different styles and genres. Some of it is very cinematic and hopefully with strong melodies – that’s what we wanted. Nobody wants to listen to a drummer going nuts! It’s not a Buddy Rich album because that’s not me – and, as I’ve got older, my role is just to play on people’s songs.

‘I didn’t really want to make a jazz album – Soul Drums has got respectful nods to different styles and genres’

It’s proving to be a great year, starting with the [Café Bleu] reissue, and then the Steve White Trio album. I’ve also played on the Earth-o-Naut album [This is Nowhere. This is Everywhere], which is out in May on Agogo Records, and I’m playing on the record by the fantastic Lucca Mae, who has come out of the Marquis circuit with Laurie Wright and The Molotovs – her record is out in April – and I’ve just done an album with Phil Daniels.

His record is coming out in the summer, when he’s finished in the West End. We’re also chatting about a reissue of The Family Silver album [Electric Blend]. At this point in my career, I’m putting out or playing on new music and I absolutely love it – I couldn’t ask for anything more.

You mentioned Soul Drums having a cinematic feel – the track ‘Eye To Eye’ has a ‘60s film vibe. It sounds like it should be on the soundtrack to a spy movie or a thriller set in Nice or Monte Carlo, when the hero walks into a bar or a casino…

It will definitely be on the soundtrack of something – everything that’s original on the record is being added to our library for the television work that we do. These days you have to be multi-platform.

‘Running’, which is one of the more upbeat tracks on the record, could be the theme to a car chase in a late ‘60s / early ‘70s film…

Absolutely. It has some amazing sax by Steve Beighton and it was designed as a car chase theme. It’s closest to what people would say is a classic Acid Jazz track.

Yes – it’s like the James Taylor Quartet…

Definitely.

‘Song For Us Dads’ is mellow…

It’s bossa nova – when I joined The Style Council, Paul would say: ‘Don’t just play a backbeat – I don’t want ‘boom-da-boom-boom’, play something different…’ So, I would play a bossa nova and that got used on a few songs, like ‘The Whole Point of No Return’, ‘With Everything To Lose’ and ‘Have You Ever Had It Blue.’

When we were doing ‘Song For Us Dads’, there was a reference to Horace Silver too – Songs for My Father. We wanted to dedicate it to our dads, who are all no longer with us. Chris lost his dad some years ago, I lost mine two years ago, and Joel lost his dad before then too – Joel’s dad was a famous musician around Sheffield and Chris’s dad was big into music. My dad was a builder, but he used to come and watch Buddy Rich and Louis Bellson with me. So, that track is a little homage and tribute to our dads.

The last track on the album, ‘Cough Up’, has a kind of Booker T feel, and it also reminds me of the first Bangs & Talbot album that came out on Acid Jazz a few years ago – it has a groovy, ‘60s Mod/soul/R&B sound…

Absolutely – and that was deliberate. The drum fill has a hint of a backbeat and then a skip – that was prevalent with drummers like Idris Muhammad and Roy McCurdy, who played on some of the Blue Note records. It has a kind of soulful feel and I was doing that soul beat – that’s where I got the album title, Soul Drums, from.

The Family Silver: Matt Deighton, Steve White and Damon Minchella

 

You mentioned The Family Silver earlier – is there a chance your debut album, Electric Blend, which had its 10th anniversary last year, could get reissued?

I hope so. Matt [Deighton] has compiled all the original demos that we did in Oswestry, which are really good, actually. There’s definitely a valid reason [to do it], with all the extras and some of the tracks that didn’t see the light of day.

‘I got to work with Jon Lord, which was amazing – no one rocks a Hammond organ like Jon’

You’ve worked with a lot of artists. Is there anyone you’d like to play with? How about Brian Auger?

I love Brian Auger! I think he’s a national treasure – an incredible musician. When I finished working with Paul, I got to work with Jon Lord, which was amazing – no one rocks a Hammond organ like Jon. I love the visceral thing that a Hammond organ does to a band.

I loved some of the things that I got to do with Damon [Minchella], like when we got up to play with Jimmy Page… My copybook is good, but I don’t think Kate Bush is going to call me… I keep asking, but it’s not going to happen. You never know, but I have very cheap rates, Kate.

I’m really happy where I am, and I still enjoy practicing and playing. I still love my vintage snare drums, and I love working on the television stuff with my lovely wife, Sally [Lindsay – actor]. We’re very blessed, we’re very lucky and very grateful. We’re just trying to keep our noses clean and keep working.

What are some of your favourite music moments that you’ve played on?

It’s contributions, really – to have contributed to something as brave as Café Bleu, as beautifully political as Our Favourite Shop, or as spiritual as the first Paul Weller solo album, which is a great record and a great personal statement. Things like ‘Clues’, off that album, where it’s just me and Paul in a room, facing each other, me on the drum kit and him with his guitar – all live.

Then there’s Wild Wood – what can you say about that? And Live Wood – what a band that was! And Stanley Road… I’m also incredibly proud of The Family Silver album… Some of the things are not necessarily commercially [successful].

I played on ‘Six Sharp Fists’ – the Galliano record… For me, it’s about being prescient on recordings. With 180 different tracks coming out this year – reissues and new tracks – that’s the sign of a successful year.

When I go, the 300 or so tracks I did with Paul, and the 400 tracks I did with Galliano, Working Week, Carleen Anderson, The Family Silver, Hague & White and the Steve White Trio… they are going to live on. That’s my legacy – I did it and that body of recording means a lot to me.

Jazz Sessions Volume 1: Soul Drums is released on March 20 (Acid Jazz): vinyl, CD, digital download and streaming platforms.

It’s the first album in The Jazz Sessions – a new series of small-group jazz albums masterminded by Acid Jazz founder Eddie Piller, showcasing his love of ‘60s and ‘70s jazz. Later volumes will appear by Matt Berry, Mick Talbot, James Taylor and others.

www.acidjazz.co.uk

Steve White Trio April and May tour dates:
April 3: Nottingham Rescue Rooms
April 4: Manchester Band On The Wall
April 10: Newcastle The Cluny
April 11: Glasgow Slay
May 1: Bristol Thekla
May 2: Colchester Arts Centre 
May 3 May Mods Mayday, London 229 Club
  • Support for the tour, apart from the London show, is Matt Deighton.