“I’m a late night,melancholy kind of girl”

 

Meg Olsen
Meg Olsen

 

Charade – the debut album by LA singer-songwriter Meg Olsen – is a brilliant collection of cinematic, dark, melancholy, country-rock and pop songs. Its lyrical themes include ill-fated relationships, restlessness, the ‘masks’ people wear and wrestling with your inner demons. Laced with Hammond organ, pedal steel and twangy guitar, these are intimate songs for the wee small hours of the morning. I spoke to Meg to find out more about the record…

Congratulations on Charade – it’s a great album. How does it feel to have it out there?

Meg Olsen: Thank you so much. It feels so good. It was honestly such a whirlwind that it wasn’t until I was holding a physical copy of the album in my hands that it sank in that it was actually finished. I was in shock for the first few weeks and I am finally starting to be able to enjoy it. Now I’m ready to get out there and play the songs live…

You made the album with the help of crowdsourcing platform Kickstarter. How did that work out for you? Would you recommend it to other artists?

MO: Well, firstly, I am forever grateful to the people who backed my Kickstarter. They have been beyond wonderful – you included!

I could never have finished this record as quickly as I did if not for those funds. It would have taken at least another year – maybe longer.

In the end, the Kickstarter method was an enormous amount of work and I did spend more than I raised, so it wasn’t 100% crowdfunded, but I do think it was totally worth it. I would recommend it to other artists, so long as they are willing to do the research and to put all of their energy into it.

It really forces you to focus on being your own PR department, which, if I am honest, is not my favourite thing to do, but now I have an album… so, it’s a double-edged sword. I do think it is an invaluable tool for artists to have access to, if they are willing to put in the effort and, of course, see the project through, as promised.

The album has a late night, melancholy, country-pop sound and there’s a lot of twangy guitar on it….

MO: Well, I am a late night, melancholy kind of girl, so I’m glad that came across! I think I was really testing the waters with my first EP [Deal From The Bottom, which came out in 2013].

I knew how big of an undertaking a full album would be, but once the EP was out, I was really itching to expand upon that thread in an album form. I had most of the songs all ready to go, so it was just a question of working out the arrangements.

The overall themes are sort of dark and cinematic – ill-fated relationships, restlessness, the ‘masks’ people wear to please – or hide from – others and to hide from themselves, and wrestling with your demons. You know, all very upbeat subject matters! It’s a wonder I didn’t end up with a pop album, really… The twang is definitely present, maybe even more so than on the EP.

Going into it, I knew I wanted to keep a bit of that Americana element (pedal steel, banjo, etc), but when we got into the studio, it became clear that the record would have a decidedly twangy undercurrent.

I think the fact that my voice is clearly not a ‘country’ voice helps maintain a little of that indie-rock edge, though… or maybe it just confuses things, but I like blurring the genre lines a little. It keeps things interesting.

 

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What was the recording process like?

MO: I worked with Daniel Dempsey again – he produced the Deal From The Bottom EP and we recorded it mainly at Bad Transmission Studios in LA, apart from some of the vocals, which we actually tracked in my little house in Laurel Canyon.

Several of the musicians who were on the EP came back for Charade, including Ian Webber (from The Idyllists/ The Hopelessly Devoted) on acoustic guitar and electric and Sam Gallagher (Meg Myers / The Idyllists) on drums.

My producer introduced me to a super-talented guitarist named Aaron Andersen – Aaron end up playing all of the pedal steel, some lap steel and some of the electric guitar, too.  His work really helped to build the overall feel of the record – he upped everyone’s game.

As for me, I played piano, Wurlitzer and Hammond organ, but we did bring in a more seasoned pianist to play on a few songs like Take Me Dancing and A Fine Way to Go.  It was an awesome group of collaborators.

You covered Pale Blue Eyes by The Velvet Underground on the album and dedicated the track to the late, great Lou Reed…

MO: I’m a big fan of Lou Reed’s work – both with The Velvet Underground and solo. I knew I wanted a cover on Charade and I think it is interesting when people cover songs written by a member of the opposite sex. It can really shake up the story and make you see it in a different light, rather than trying to get one-up on the original, which is, obviously, never going to happen.

There was a short list of contenders, but Pale Blue Eyes seemed to cover themes akin to my own songs, so it made sense to record that track. We actually recorded it about month before Lou passed away. His passing made it all the more clear to me that I had made the right choice.  It became a memorial tribute by chance, but it was originally intended as a kind of thank you to Lou for all of the wonderful songs.

What music are you listening to – and digging – at the moment?

MO: I’ve been listening to Nina Persson’s new solo record, Animal Heart, which is a fun, poppy record.  I really love her voice and lyrics.

I just saw Neil Young play a show earlier this month, which was incredible. That set me on a complete Neil kick  –  mainly, Live at Massey Hall 1971 and Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere.

Also, I’ve been on a real vinyl buying binge lately – specifically 45s from the 1960s. I’ve been listening to people like Roy Orbison, The Byrds and girl groups like The Marvelettes.

You launched your album with a special show at Bar Lubitsch, in LA. How did that go?

MO: The show was really great – special and intimate. I love playing at Bar Lubitsch. It has a really cool vibe, as LA venues go.  People came from far and wide. I had a full backing band, I wore a vintage dress with rhinestones and champagne was cracked open. It was very much a success in my book.

 

 

So, can we expect any more gigs and new material soon? Would you like to play in the UK?

MO: I will be touring in the US this summer and playing loads of local shows too. I would love to play a show in London – I lived there some years back and it’s still my favourite city. There’s nothing official yet, but there is a chance it could happen in the fall, so fingers crossed.

As for more recording, nothing is set in stone, but there are a few ideas brewing, so we shall see… We’re about to shoot a music video for Scissors + Fire, which I am very excited about. I can’t wait to get started on that.

I’m also working on a few other collaborations. One is with an art museum in The Netherlands, which should be a really fun project. Mostly, I’ll be focusing my energy on touring and getting my record out there…

 

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Meg Olsen’s track by track guide to Charade

 

 

The Party

“This is the first song we recorded that wasn’t on the Deal From the Bottom EP. I wrote it several years ago now and I knew it would be on the album pretty early on. The protagonist in the song wants to get out of a situation with every fibre of their being, but the person they are with – whether it be a friend or lover – is being sucked into the glitz and glamour of the scene not realising that it’s an illusion and it’s empty. It’s like watching a train wreck in progress.”

Scissors + Fire

“This was one of the last songs we recorded and it was also the newest.  Scissors + Fire is about a relationship that was really doomed from the beginning – my favourite subject! Ha! It’s two self-destructive people bouncing off each other, while inflicting real damage as it comes to a head.”

Follow You Blind

“This song is about the restlessness that I think all humans encounter from time to time – some more than others. In this case, it’s about feeling constricted by a relationship when you know you should be happy in the moment. I’ve known so many people who have been in that exact position.”

Reckless Heart 

“This song was actually inspired, loosely, by a book I was reading at the time, Still Life with Woodpecker by Tom Robbins. It’s about the idea of waiting for someone to return (both physically or emotionally) to the life that you’ve built together. Being so blindly in love with someone that this person literally stays in one place for weeks, maybe years, to the extreme that the house and plants start to grow out of control and take over. Those things that hold you hostage while you wait for this person to come back. But what if they don’t? I think that’s another song…”

Pale Blue Eyes

“I talked about this earlier, but I knew I wanted to include a cover and this was on the list early on. It fits in with the themes of the other songs quite nicely. It’s a simple and beautifully bittersweet song.”

Charade

“This was another song that was kicking around for ages.  It was originally going to be a stripped-down affair with just moody, reverb-drenched electric guitar and vocals. In fact, we had been playing it out that way, but when we got into the studio Sam (my drummer) started up with this almost bossa nova beat. We started jamming the song and we all loved it, so it stuck. One of the main themes that the album deals with is this idea of hiding ourselves behind masks  – the lies we tell each other so we don’t create waves, or because we are afraid of being alone. Charade is about what happens when that blows up in your face. When the curtains fall and you’re exposed.”

Corners of Bars

“This was one of the songs on the EP and one of the first to be recorded. I wrote it on the piano quite a while back now and it’s still one of my favourites.  It’s pretty straightforward and autobiographical as my songs go. I’ll leave it at that!”

A Fine Way To Go

“This song was a test of my self-editing skills because I had about six verses originally. I decided it really needed to be leaner.  The song is about those times when you knowingly get yourself into a situation that is bad for you but it’s so much fun that you tell reason to take a hike. You’ll worry about the consequences later…”

Deal From The Bottom

“This was one of those rare cases where the words and the melody came all at once and it was more or less finished in an evening. I love the banjo part that Jonathan Clay (of Jamestown Revival) plays on this track. It’s about a guy who really loves this person but neither of them can seem to commit – they’re never in the same place – mentally and life-wise – at the same time. So he tries to numb himself and his “little black book” is his drug of choice.”

Take Me Dancing

“We recorded the vocals and piano live in the same room.  I wrote this song several years ago. It’s about friendship and, again, the masks we hide behind. Not being able to see through that when someone may really need help.”

Waves

“This song started out as a chord progression and a melody that would eventually become the chorus. It stayed a half-idea for quite a while and then suddenly one day it all came together. Theme-wise, it’s clearly about betrayal, but also the dynamic between the sea and the weather was an influence. I’ve spent a bit of time in Cornwall and the sea and weather seem to really interact with each other there.  You can’t help but thinking maybe they are engaged in a lovers’ row. California beaches aren’t quite the same.”

 

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“I don’t dwell in those dark places anymore…”

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New York-based singer/songwriter Chris Mills is back with a superb new album – Alexandria – his first in five years – and a new band, The Distant Stars.  I spoke to him about library fires, cities, seas, losing things and finding them again…

Congratulations on your new album Alexandria – your first record in five years. What have you been up to during that time?

Chris Mills: All sorts of things. I got married. I had a daughter. I’ve been travelling, teaching and writing. Growing up in a way, I guess. Finally…

This is the first album you’ve recorded with your new band The Distant Stars. How did the group come about? I’ve heard a tale about a chance encounter in Norway… Can you shed some light on that and how you came to work with musician and producer Christer Knutsen?

CM: Ryan Hembrey (bass player) and I had been travelling through Norway, playing political American songs in the schools over there.

We had been travelling through some of the most rural parts of the country. One night we stopped into a bar to hear a band, and, after talking with the keyboard player for a while, we realised that he actually had a lot of my records at home and that he was pretty familiar with my work.  It turned out that the keyboard player was a guy named Christer Knutsen, who is actually an incredibly, well-regarded writer, producer and sideman in his own right.

He and the band just happened to be on tour and they were stopping over in the little town where we were staying. So it was pretty remarkable that we even met. After that, we started to get together whenever we were all in Oslo. The record just started to take shape from there.

How did working with Christer (guitar, piano, organ, backing vocals) affect the sound of the record and the writing & recording process?

CM: The main thing was that it allowed me to step back from the process a little bit. I usually get wrapped up in every aspect of the recording process and sometimes it gets in the way of just concentrating on the performance. Because Christer already knew my previous material so well, I felt like I could really let go of the reins a little bit and trust that things wouldn’t go off the rails.

As far as the sound of the record goes, we both really wanted to trust the writing a little more than I had in the past and showcase the songs themselves, without some of the ‘bells and whistles’ I usually pile on.

So I think we achieved a good balance on the production side that lets the songs speak for themselves.

Can you tell me about the songwriting process for the new album and what the recording sessions were like? It was recorded in Chicago, New York and Oslo. What was that like?

CM: The writing sort of happened in starts and stops. I’ve been so busy with other things over the last few years that it was hard to find time to write.

Also, now that things are a bit more stable in my life, I really had to dig down a bit to find things that I thought would connect with people. I can’t really sabotage my relationship in the name of collecting new material, so I had to find some other way to access those emotional aspects of the writing.

In terms of recording, we would generally demo things when I was in Oslo. If I knew Christer was going to be around, I would finish up whatever I was writing and then send him a quick home recording. We would flesh it out a bit more when we got together.

Once we had enough material, he came to the States and we went into Wall to Wall Recording in Chicago, with Ryan Hembrey (bass) and Konrad Meissner (drums), and laid down the majority of the record in about four days.

After that we just sent files back and forth until we had all the overdubs we needed and then I shipped all the tracks off to Ryan Freeland in L.A. for the final mix.

Over the course of your last few albums, you’ve shed the stripped-down, alt.country troubadour tag and gone for a more widescreen, expansive sound, with arrangements (strings, horns, organ, etc). Why have you moved in this direction?

CM: I honestly just follow whatever interests me. I’m always trying to do something a little different than I did the last time.

For this one, the imagery and themes are a bit more widescreen and cinematic, but the orchestration of the tracks, the amount of actual instruments and the ‘bells and whistles’ are actually more stripped-down than anything I’ve done in years.

I think because things are lyrically more evocative, and because, with Christer’s help, the dynamic range of the record, both sonically and emotionally, is a bit wider, this one feels more expansive.

The new album was released using the crowdsourcing platform Kickstarter, whereby fans pledge money to fund the project and receive ‘rewards’ in return. Why did you go down that route and what were the advantages and disadvantages of doing so? Would you recommend it to other musicians?

CM: I actually had a great experience with Kickstarter. And I did it because, after we tracked everything, I was so happy with what we had done that I really wanted to make sure that the album had the best chance of success that I could give it.  And between the mixing, the production, the touring and promotion, I just didn’t have the financial resources to do justice to what I felt we’d accomplished.

As for the advantages of a Kickstarter campaign, I think it’s just another way to connect with fans of your work – if they’re out there. It lets people become a part of the experience in a way that hasn’t really been an option before.

Would I recommend it? It really depends. When I did it, I took pains to make sure that people got value for money, so I didn’t price things in a way that made people feel like they were ‘doing charity’. It was really more of an album pre-sale, with extra things thrown in.  So if you got something through Kickstarter, it really didn’t cost that much more than if you were going to just buy the record when it came out.  But you were also able to hear it early and get some extra content.  I have a pretty personal relationship with a lot of my fans. There are a lot of people that have been coming to my shows for a long time, so I knew that the support was there.

So I think if you know your fan base and you execute the project in such a way that people are getting real value, it can be a rewarding experience. It also lets people feel like they have some ownership of the final product and encourages them to help make it succeed when it goes out to the wider public.

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What’s the meaning behind the title Alexandria?

CM: For me, the album is about losing things and finding them again. I’ve always wondered about the library at Alexandria [in Egypt] and what we actually lost when it burned. What kind of languages, science and art?

And for me this record was about recovering a language I hadn’t used in a while. I felt like I had been out in the wilderness a bit, artistically, and so this album was about finding my way back, relearning how to do it, and, hopefully, sharing some of that journey with the listener.

In the lyrics, there’s recurring imagery, such as cities, boats and the sea…

CM: I think cities, boats and the sea are romantic. It’s the same with birds and stars, so those sorts of images always seem to find their way into what I’m doing, one way or another.

Would you agree that this record is an album that finds you trying to come to terms with getting older, settling down and building for the future – you became a father for the first time last year… It also looks back at your past… Basically, it’s where you’ve been and where you’re going to….

CM: Hopefully, everything I do artistically is a translation of whatever is going on with me at the time. We all seem to think that our individual experiences are our own. But in reality, we all go through the same things on some level or other. I always feel that if I can honestly connect with my true self, then I can reach other people as well. It’s not always easy to do, because I’m not always ready to look at the things I do and my experiences honestly. But the more I can do that, the more I feel like I can connect with people. And if I’m not willing to do it honestly, then the songs don’t even have a chance…

How is 2014 shaping up so far? What can we expect from you over the next year?

CM: Touring, writing and more touring. Christer and I have a few ideas for some EPs we’d like to collaborate on. He seems to really like some of the darker, sadder stuff from my early records, and even though I don’t really dwell in those dark places anymore, we’re talking about doing some new things in that vein. And even though I’m not there now, it might be cool to try and to tap into that stuff again from a safe distance and see what happens.

I’ve also been meaning to do an EP of lost songs by The Havenots [UK duo from Leicester] that I think people should hear. Liam Dullaghan is one of my favorite songwriters and I’d like to see what I can do with some of his stuff.

And finally, what music are you currently digging?

CM: I really love the latest Mark Mulcahy record. It’s pretty phenomenal. Other than, I’m really just listening to old reggae and Warren Zevon records.

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See Chris Mills on tour in 2014:

http://chrismillsmusic.com/shows-3/