Traveller’s Tales

 

Photo of Dan Raza by Tanya Ro

 

Folk and Americana troubadour, Dan Raza, is back with his first album in eight years.

Wayfarer, his third record, was mostly written while travelling across the US, Mexico and mainland Europe.

“After my last album, Two, came out, in 2017, I found myself feeling burnt-out and in need of a change of environment. I’d just come out of a long-term relationship, Brexit had just happened, and things were starting to feel quite claustrophobic for me in the UK,” says the London-based singer-songwriter. 

“I just had a realisation that life is short, and I’d spent the best part of a decade-and-a-half doing the same things and had become a bit jaded.

“I wanted to go to new places, meet new people, and spend some time reflecting on where I was at the time and where I wanted to go next.”

Where he’s gone is to make his best album yet – Wayfarer is an ambitious, warm and soulful record that sees Raza taking his sound in new directions and exploring influences including Van Morrison, Rod Stewart, Ronnie Lane, Jackson Browne, Bobby Womack and The Staple Singers.

‘I found myself feeling burnt-out and in need of a change of environment. I’d just come out of a long-term relationship, Brexit had just happened, and things were starting to feel quite claustrophobic for me in the UK’

Tackling both personal and political themes, the songs embrace folk, country, blues and soul, and feature rich arrangements.

“On stage now for a while, it’s just been me and a guitar, but I knew some of these songs deserved fuller arrangements,” says Raza.

“Part of the fun for me in going into the studio is having other musicians add their own musical voices and seeing how the songs expand as a result.”

With that in mind, Wayfarer features an impressive list of guests, including Adam Phillips on guitar (Richard Ashcroft), Geraint Watkins on keys (Van Morrison) and Luke Bullen (KT Tunstall) on drums.

North Carolina multi-instrumentalist and Grammy-nominee, Josh Goforth, plays fiddle, mandolin and guitar, while the album also continues Raza’s long-term collaboration with members of Slim Chance, the band Ronnie Lane founded in the ‘70s after leaving The Faces.

Charlie Hart from the group produced Raza’s 2012 self-titled debut record, and Steve Simpson (mandolin) and Frank Mead (whistle and accordion) both appear on Wayfarer.

In an exclusive interview, Raza spoke to Say It With Garage Flowers about the inspirations and influences behind the new record – we managed to persuade this restless wayfarer to spend some time with us in a pub in Hackney a few weeks ahead of the album coming out.

“That warm sound is what I love. It’s soul music,” he tells us.

 

Q&A

Wayfarer is your first album in eight years – the last one, Two, came out in 2017. In the press background to the latest record, you say that in the last few years, you’d found yourself feeling burn-out and in need of a change of environment. You’d just come out a long-term relationship, Brexit had just happened, and things were starting to feel quite claustrophobic for you in the UK, so you went travelling. Is that why it’s taken you so long to make a new record?

Dan Raza: They were the reasons I left London after the last record – I was living in London until 2017, then I went walkabout… I left London shortly after the last album came out, which wasn’t the brightest idea, but I needed to get out, so I did… I came back in 2019.

Why did the record take so long? I started to write and gather the songs over two or three years while I was abroad, then I was ready to record, but the pandemic happened…

So, when you left London, you went to Tennessee…

Dan Raza: I had friends there and I’d never been before. It was so cool – I flew into Knoxville and spent time in Nashville and Johnson City.

How was Nashville for someone whose music has often been tagged as Americana? Did you see several sides to the city?

Dan Raza: It was the best – it’s amazing… There’s a lot of bad stuff there, but the good stuff is top level. It’s just so inspiring, getting to hear the best songwriters play in intimate venues, trading songs.

In the sleeve notes for the new album, you say that the record involved a journey all over the world – from the streets of Helsinki to the streets of North Carolina…

Dan Raza: That’s right… When we started recording the album, we had to do it remotely because of the pandemic. The rhythm section was in Helsinki – the engineer, who is a cool guy named Henri Vaxby, is Finnish, and he organised the rhythm section. I was playing in East London – we were wearing masks – and the drummer and the bass player were in Helsinki, playing to a click.

Photo by René Geilenkirchen

‘Nashville was just so inspiring, getting to hear the best songwriters play in intimate venues, trading songs’

You went to Mexico and mainland Europe on your travels too…

Dan Raza: Yeah – Italy and Germany, where I played gigs, and I went to Eastern Europe for a little bit.

It sounds quite romantic and Dylanesque – you were a wayfarer, a wandering minstrel – but what was it really like? Was it hard and quite hand-to-mouth?

Dan Raza: I was in my mid-to late thirties, so it wasn’t like being a young Dylan in his twenties… It was cool and I’d always wanted to live abroad, so when Brexit happened, I thought, ‘Oh, shit – they’re going to shut the door…’ I was like, ‘Hell, man – I want to get out, meet people and experience what it’s like to live abroad, only if it’s for months rather than years…’

I loved it, man – you read about the history, you’re standing on the streets, and you can’t help but suck it all in. It’s so inspiring – incredible history and rich, individual cultures.

I toured a lot in Germany, and in Italy I turned up at acoustic nights or songwriter nights – I would talk to the promoters and musicians afterwards and see if they could get me gigs.

So, were all the songs written while you were travelling?

Dan Raza: Pretty much, but there was a little break because of the pandemic and I wrote a couple of other songs, including Water Reflects (What It’s Shown). That was written during the nadir of the Boris Johnson time.

Was Covid a double-edged sword for you? It delayed the album, but it also gave you more time to write a few more songs for it…

Dan Raza: Definitely. I was one of the unfortunate musicians who didn’t get any government help, so I was working all the time – I was doing a delivery job… I didn’t have all the time to sit at home, writing songs, like some people did, but I got to reflect on the songs I’d written and where I thought the album was going to go – it was a good thing for me.

‘Water Reflects (What It’s Shown) was written during the nadir of the Boris Johnson time’

How do you write songs? On acoustic guitar?

Dan Raza: Yes, but I do a lot of work away from the guitar as well, in terms of thinking about the ideas.

Do you write the lyrics first and then the music, or is it the other way round?

Dan Raza: It’s evolved – it’s more lyric-based now, but before it was more music-based. Hopefully the lyrics are a little bit stronger on this album because of that.

Photo by Tanya Ro

So, you recorded the album between 2021 and 2023…

Dan Raza: The bulk of it happened at the Rock of London Studios on Hackney Road and we did some overdubs in North Carolina – I have a great friend called Josh Goforth, who is based over there. He produced the sessions. I went up into the mountains – it’s Doc Watson territory…

But you produced the album…

Dan Raza: I did, but by default… I’m not a great producer, but I had a lot of help. It sounds alright.

It sounds great! It has some nice, full arrangements, and you’ve worked with some good musicians on it, including Adam Philips (guitar – Richard Ashcroft); Geraint Watkins (keys – Van Morrison) and Luke Bullen (drums – KT Tunstall), plus some members of Slim Chance: Steve Simpson and Frank Mead. Charlie Hart from Slim Chance produced your first album, in 2012…

Dan Raza: Charlie saw me when I was in my mid-twenties – he came down when I was playing at a songwriters’ night in Lewisham, as he lived nearby. He liked what I did, and he invited me to his studio – I played him some songs and he asked me whether I’d be interested in making an album. That’s how I made the connection with all those guys. The nice thing about the new album is that I feel like my extended musical family has grown.

The album has a lovely, warm sound…

Dan Raza: Thanks, man – I love that. It’s what I like in a lot of music, like Jackson Browne…

I’m thinking Van Morrison’s Tupelo Honey, too… There’s a Celtic soul thing going on…

Dan Raza: That’s a real sweet spot for me, and Ronnie Lane and early Rod Stewart. There are English, American and Anglo-Irish influences, and they meet in a unique place… The Waterboys are kind of similar… It’s a melting point – that warm sound is what I love. It’s soul music.

‘The nice thing about the new album is that I feel like my extended musical family has grown’

There’s organ, strings, pedal steel and fiddle on the record…

Dan Raza: That’s one of the problems when you’re producing – it’s so tempting to keep adding stuff… It was difficult to make it all sit right, but we got there. 

Let’s talk about some of the songs. There’s a mix of personal and political songs on the record. You wrote Only A Stone’s Throw Away while you were in Tijuana, Mexico, in winter 2018.  It’s about Central American migrants trying to cross to the US…

Dan Raza: That was a wild time… I don’t know how much of it was reported over here… the caravan of hundreds and thousands of people leaving Central America for the US… Climate change, war and whatever else causes displaced people to want to move – that situation is going to keep coming up. It was something I saw and I wrote the song that day.

Nothing Like A Woman is one of the lighter songs on the record. It’s romantic and is about the power of a relationship – how a woman can make you change your mind…

Dan Raza: That was me trying to do the whole Ronnie Lane and Rod Stewart thing, with a fiddle and a mandolin.

Like You Wear It Well?

Dan Raza: Exactly, man – that’s my template.

In My Own Time is a Dylanesque country-folk tune, and again, it’s a bit lighter than some of the other songs on the record, with violin and banjo…

Dan Raza: Yeah, man – I love the groove, with Luke Bullen on drums.

Water Reflects (What It’s Shown) has a moody, blues-soul feel, It’s a new direction for you. Musically, it was influenced by Bobby Womack and The Staple Singers, wasn’t it?

Dan Raza: Yes – very much. Thank you for picking up on that. It was exciting – as a musician, you listen to a lot of diverse stuff, but your sound can be a bit limited, do you know what I mean? So, it’s nice when you can touch on some of your other influences, and they find a way to come out.

I think this album will surprise people. It’s ambitious and it has a range to it.

Dan Raza: Good – thanks, man. I’m just lucky with the way it came out and with the musicians I worked with. Water Reflects (What It’s Shown) reflects some of my influences and some of the people I was working with – they pushed me in different directions. When I play the song live, it sounds different – it’s almost like a Bert Jansch drony blues thing, but when I did it with the keys player, who is a guy called Carl Hudson, and the drummer, Russ Parker, it just gave it a Pops Staples feel, and suddenly I was like, ‘This is awesome, man,’ and I came up with the chant bit in the middle, which I basically stole from Bobby Womack, and I was running…

That song was inspired by the political climate when Boris Johnson was prime minister and Brexit happened…

Dan Raza: Yeah – I was disgusted by it, as a lot of people were. It was the hubris of the time – Johnson, who was so arrogant… It was January 2020, and it came from my frustration and anger.

Behold The Night is a beautiful song to start the album with. It’s a ballad with strings that gradually builds. What can you tell me about that track? It lures listeners in, rather than starting with a bang…

Dan Raza: It’s always difficult, because most of my songs are slow... (laughs). If I put a fast song at the start, the rest of the album would be downhill! I like it – it just felt like a natural start, but I never wrote it to be an opener. It starts with my guitar and voice, which is a natural way to start a singer-songwriter album, and then the other instruments come in.

Wasn’t That Enough For Me, which was the first single, is a song about being on the road and hitting the highway…

Dan Raza: That’s a metaphor…

It’s also a relationship song…

Dan Raza: Exactly – it’s about not being able to settle down.

It fits with the title of the album too – a wayfarer, a restless person, moving around…

Dan Raza: Yeah. It has echoes of all those things – a restlessness and searching for something…

Are you feeling restless at the moment?

Dan Raza: Good question, man. No – I feel alright.

How is it being back in London?

Dan Raza: I’m not feeling restless yet. Let’s wait and see. I’ve got so many friends and connections here, so let’s make the most of it. I want to soak up what’s happening.

Wayfarer by Dan Raza is out now on Valve Records.

www.danraza.com

 

‘I just love to sing – I’ll sing the phone book if you give it to me!’

 

P.P. Arnold. Picture by Gered Mankowitz

This month sees the release of the first ever, career-spanning collection of music by soul legend, P.P. Arnold. 

Available as a 57-track, 3CD box set or a 25-track double LP version, Soul Survivor – A Life In Song, is a companion piece to her 2022 autobiography of the same name. 

With a sleeve created by photographer (and her close friend) Gered Mankowitz, and with extensive new sleeve notes by author, Jude Rogers, the collection includes key singles and album tracks, as well as previously unreleased recordings, demo versions, live performances, and some rare mixes that are being reissued for the very first time.

The compilation features duets and collaborations with Rod Stewart, Chip Taylor, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Dr. Robert, and Andy Gibb. 

Born in Los Angeles, California, in 1946, Arnold joined Ike and Tina Turner as an ‘Ikette’, which brought her to London in the Swinging ’60s.

Since her early days signed to Andrew Loog Oldham’s Immediate label – her debut solo album, The First Lady of Immediate, featuring hit single, The First Cut Is The Deepest, came out in 1968 – Arnold’s allies, associates and working partners during her colourful and varied career have included The Small Faces, Cat Stevens, Mick Jagger, Barry Gibb, Eric Clapton, The Blockheads’ Chaz Jankel, Roger Waters, The Beatmasters, Primal Scream, The KLF and Ocean Colour Scene

In an exclusive interview with Say It With Garage Flowers, we ask her to tell us about some of the lesser-known tracks that appear on the box set and get her to reflect on just a few of her many collaborations.

Q&A

Has the box set been in development for a while?

P.P. Arnold: We started working on it after Soul Survivor [the book.] There’s a lovely guy called Michael Mulligan, who has put box sets together for loads of different people – it’s been two or three years. We worked on it together – I’ve been very closely involved. There were some things that we couldn’t get the rights for, but I got most of the things I wanted.

There’s a lot of great stuff for your fans included, and several songs that I didn’t know you’d recorded or released…

P.P. Arnold: It’s good, and I’m pleased about that. I would’ve liked to have included more of the stuff I did with Pressure Point – we did a really good album [This Is London] with a great band. It’s got good production…

The song that is included, Leave Right Now, has an acid jazz feel…

P.P. Arnold: It was acid jazz – and it was going to come out on the Acid Jazz label…

In the ‘80s, you were adopted by the UK dance music scene and made records with acts like The Beatmasters, who you met while in the studio singing for commercials…

P.P. Arnold: I was doing jingles, and they were doing dance music. I started writing some songs with Richard Warmsley [The Beatmasters], who was a great keyboard player. We started getting serious and they asked me to do a track with them. I didn’t know what house music was, so I asked them was it funky? I wasn’t into that whole thing that was coming out of Chicago… So, I went into the studio with them, and we cut Burn It Up. It was a very happening time with dance music.

P.P. Arnold – picture by Robin Clewley

So, did you get into the scene?

P.P. Arnold: Yes, I did, but I didn’t do a lot of shows – The Beatmasters weren’t into gigging…

A lot of dance music was studio-based…

P.P. Arnold: Exactly – I’m the only live thing on the track, but I couldn’t get a record deal after Burn It Up. That’s why I did Dynamite, which I wrote with Kenny Moore [Tina Turner] – I had my own record company, which was ambitious, but I didn’t know about releasing records and all the under-the-table things that had to go down. I couldn’t compete, but The Beatmasters produced Dynamite, and we made a video. It had an underground kind of vibe.

Through The Beatmasters, I was introduced to The KLF, and I did some stuff with them. I also did E Vapor 8 with Altern-8 – there’s a crazy video for it on YouTube.

 

Let’s go back to the early ‘70s, to talk about your single, A Likely Piece of Work and the B-side, May The Winds Blow, which are both included on the box set. They were written by Jack Good and Ray Pohlman, and had a different sound to the British, pastoral-psych-pop sound you’d explored in the ‘60s – they sound more like punchy Northern Soul, or Stax…

P.P. Arnold: I guess they do, but they were produced in England. They were from the musical, Catch My Soul, which was a rock version of Othello. I knew Jack Good from the Shindig show in America.

You worked with P.J. Proby on Catch My Soul. How was that? Did he split his trousers?

P.P. Arnold: No, he didn’t, but he was a nightmare to work with, I tell you. He was a wild guy and he had a problem with alcohol. He used to show up in the morning… he used to drink Boone’s Farm apple wine… it wasn’t cool. It was what it was. I played Bianca in the show, and they beefed-up my role. In the original Shakespeare version, she was a harlot.

In the late ‘70s, you sang a duet with Andy Gibb on the Goffin and King song, Will You Love Me Tomorrow? It’s on the box set and it has a slight disco feel. Was that the first song you recorded after the death of your daughter, Debbie, in a car accident in L.A?

P.P. Arnold: It was – Barry Gibb invited me to come down to Miami and the idea was to finish the album we’d started. I took him up on his offer because I had to get out of Hollywood – I was too sensitive to be there. I was going to record with Barry, but when I got there he wasn’t able to do anything. Stigwood [Robert – Bee Gees manager] wasn’t up for it.

Barry was producing Barbra Streisand, Dionne Warwick and Olivia Newton-John – I didn’t have any support systems behind me, or a label… He was also producing a best of album for Andy Gibb, and he said I could do a duet with him for it – it’s such a beautiful version.

Let’s talk about Electric Dreams from the box set – it was featured on the soundtrack to the film that came out in 1984, and was co-written by Boy George. It was released as a single and has an ‘80s electro-pop feel…

P.P. Arnold: Don Was produced it and George did all the styling for the video. It came out as a single, and it was popular – the video is really sweet –  but the Giorgio Moroder [and Philip Oakey] song, Together in Electric Dreams, was used…

I didn’t know your song, A Little Pain, which is on the box set. It has a smooth R & B/soul sound, like Anita Baker or Phyllis Hyman…

P.P. Arnold: It was produced by Dexter Wansel and Nick Martinelli did the remixes. It had that Philly International vibe fused with Loose Ends – Carl McIntosh worked with us on it.

The Human Heart, which is also on the box set, comes from the musical, Once On This Island, which you appeared in. It’s a big Broadway ballad that starts with piano and vocals and then builds into a full arrangement…

P.P. Arnold: It’s beautiful. I love singing ballads. That’s the other side of me. I was heavily influenced by Dionne Warwick and Bacharach & David – that whole period of the ‘60s, which influenced a lot of what I did with Immediate and Andrew Loog Oldham. There are some beautiful ballads on The First Lady of Immediate album, like Something Beautiful Happened.

Do you think people often perceive you as a soul diva and forget your softer singing side?

P.P. Arnold: I just love to sing – I’ll sing the phone book if you give it to me! I can do jazz and blues… It’s all in me. I’ve got my own lane and the whole ‘60s British soul kind of thing is what people know me for.

In the ‘90s, you worked with Ocean Colour Scene – the single, It’s A Beautiful Thing, is on the box set – and, since then, you’ve collaborated with the band’s guitarist, Steve Cradock – he produced your 2019 album, The New Adventures of P.P. Arnold. One of my favourite tracks on the box set is your demo version of The Small Faces’ I’m Only Dreaming, which you did with Steve. It’s beautiful. I can remember you doing a version of it during lockdown for an online concert organised by the magazine, Shindig!

P.P. Arnold when she was recording for Immediate in the ’60s. Photo credit: LONDON FEATURES/Avalon/Avalon.

‘I’ve got my own lane and the whole ‘60s British soul kind of thing is what people know me for’

P.P. Arnold: I love it. We wanted to do it for the album [The New Adventures of P.P. Arnold], but there was so much stuff going on with the politics of the Steve Marriott estate. I didn’t want to do any of the Small Faces tracks because of that – his kids were being ripped off, and his mother was still alive… so I stayed away from it.  I wanted to record Afterglow… I did a funky version of it with Tony Remy, and I wanted to put it on the box set, but the recording wasn’t great.

The unreleased ‘90s recordings you did with Chaz Jankel (Ian Dury and The Blockheads) are available on the box set – there are four songs: Salobreña, Take Me To The Top, God In U, God In Me, and Which Side You On? You first met him in 1983, didn’t you?

P.P. Arnold: Yes – I met him when I first came back to England [from America]. I was going out with a guitar player who was working with Chaz – he had a studio just off Portobello Road. We really connected musically, and I wanted to do something with him then, but the guy I was with then was an idiot and got jealous, so it just didn’t happen.

Did you co-write the songs with Chaz?

P.P. Arnold: Yes – they were songs of mine, but Chaz put the music to them. I’d been living with God In U, God In Me for a long time…

It’s a protest song with an anti-war message…

P.P. Arnold: Yes – it’s so right for now. It’s all about how religion has so much to answer for.

‘I’ve got bags of songs, but I’ve never had the chance to work with people to develop them. Back in the day, nobody wanted me to write…’

P.P. Arnold – picture by Robin Clewley

Why did the songs you did with Chaz never get released in the ‘90s?

P.P. Arnold: Neither of us could get a look in – people thought we were too old. I’ve got bags of songs, but I’ve never had the chance to work with people to develop them. Back in the day, nobody wanted me to write – they weren’t interested in me being a writer. They wanted me to sing their writers’ songs.

There’s a great track called Temptation that you did with Chip Taylor on the box set – it’s a country-blues song, but with a hip-hop beat, and it’s from his 2001 album, Black and Blue America

P.P. Arnold: Yeah – that song is a historical track about America, slavery, politics, rednecks and all the biblical wrongs that went down. It’s a funky track and I’m glad that it’s on the box set for the same reason as God In U, God In Me – those songs are very political, revolutionary and spiritual. People don’t really know me for doing stuff like that. I write a lot of political stuff, but it’s not out there. I’m pleased that these songs are going to be heard.

Let’s talk about Five In The Afternoon – the brilliant 2007 album that you made with Dr. Robert of The Blow Monkeys: there are four songs from it on the box set. It’s a great ‘lost’ album. He wrote it for the both of you, didn’t he?

P.P. Arnold: He did. I didn’t get a chance to be involved in the whole writing process, as I was on the road with Roger Waters – Robert wrote all the songs, but I contributed a lot to that album, like the melodies.

A lot of the tracks are cool – they remind me of my mum and dad’s grooves from the ‘40s and ‘50s. It’s a great album and we sound great together on it.

I met Robert at a party – we had a mutual friend, and they were jamming there. I got up and sang with them – I think we did The First Cut Is The Deepest and some Curtis Mayfield.

I love your live versions of the two Sandy Denny songs on the box set: Take Me Away and Like An Old Fashioned Waltz, which are taken from the Denny tribute show, The Lady, which you performed in…

P.P. Arnold: They were from a show at The Barbican. I also did the Sandy Denny song, I’m A Dreamer [on The New Adventures of P.P. Arnold]. Steve Cradock was really into her, and I told him that I’d sung in the show. Take Me Away has a real gospel vibe – I did a recording of it with Tony Remy too, but they decided to use the other one on the box set.

You’ve covered a Bob Dylan song that’s on the box set too, Well, Well, Well, with Steve Howe of Yes. It’s from his album Portraits of Bob Dylan

P.P. Arnold: That’s a great funky tune. Steve called me out of the blue and asked me to do it, which was lovely – we go way back. He played guitar when I was on the Delaney & Bonnie tour.

Do you think you’ll incorporate some of the lesser-known songs on the box set into your current live set?

P.P. Arnold: Absolutely. I like to change my set a lot, and I have so many great songs in the catalogue that I never get a chance to sing. I’m thinking about all that.

This year, it’s the 60th anniversary of Immediate. Any plans to do something around that?

P.P. Arnold: Yeah, it will happen, but there’s some politics going on… I think Kenney Jones has the licence to do something with The Small Faces…

Photo credit: LONDON FEATURES/Avalon/Avalon.

Immediate had issues back in the day, and 60 years on, there are still things that need to be resolved…

P.P. Arnold: Definitely – it’s a journey. Nobody got paid… When I came back [to the UK] in the ‘80s, I wanted to know what was going on, and I started things happening. Kenney came out of the woodwork and Rod [Stewart] – everybody was interested. Everybody got ripped off in the ‘60s, and all the artists who are in the higher echelons of the industry now are the ones who got through the ‘70s – that’s when everybody started making money.

P.P. Arnold: Soul Survivor – A Life In Song is released on February 21 via Demon Music Group / Edsel.

P.P. Arnold will be touring in the spring. Please check her website for details: www.pparnold.com.